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It is cringe-worthy watching this gormless duo congratulating themselves on their podcasts and how open they are – 75% of our guests are from the left!
They lack all sense of irony.
At one point Foster jokes that he would enjoy having a beer with Saagar. Non-alcoholic of course. It’s not clear if Foster thinks that all brown people are Muslim.
There really is just too much material here to demolish these two, but I’ll stick to the ones that I found most irritating.
“We did the most challenging interview of Netanyahu since the war started”.
They do proper journalism, don’t you know.
Which interviews does Kisin have in mind? Fox? US Congress Address? ABC? CBS? Nelk Boys?
It’s clear that corporate media would never have allowed a robust interview. Look at what happened to Sangita Myska for interviewing an Israeli spokesperson.
Triggernometry’s interview with Netanyahu was Nelk Boys 2.
Kisin thinks that the dynamic duo asked some probing questions, and there was pushback. Those bits must be on the editing room floor, I’m guessing, because they weren’t in the final cut.
After I had picked myself off the floor - not looking for the edit cuts, but from fits of laughter, I found another gem: “The IDF accidentally hit a hospital. Not once, but twice”.
Kisin will not countenance that it was a deliberate strike. “How do you know?”, he protests.
“We don’t know what happened”.
We don’t know? We know that Israel tells lies. Israel lies all the time. This is their MO. Commit a war crime and then lie about it.
Killed Shireen abu Akleh, 2022 – Israel didn’t do it; it was a Palestinian bullet.
Killed 15 first responders, 2025 – the ambulances didn’t have their lights on, until a video is discovered proving that to be a lie.
The USS Liberty, 1967 – Israel thought it was an Egyptian ship, until radio communications proved otherwise.
The Sabra and Shatilla Massacre, 1982 – Israel denied responsibility until overwhelming evidence from journalists was brought before the world and they could deny it no longer.
Muhammed al-Durrah, 2000 – a 12-year old boy killed by Israelis, who initially blamed the Palestinians.
Ahli Hospital, 2023 – Israel said it was misfired Hamas rocket, but forensic investigations laid the blame on Israel who kept changing their story.
Rafah, safe zone, bombing, 2024 – Israel said it was terrorists they targeted but videos showed it was civilians in tents, some burned alive.
Israel lies. That’s how we know Israel did it, Kisin.
Astonishing that Kisin asks “How do you know”, when Israel is the criminal. But moments later he is quoting Thomas Sewell (I think, the name wasn’t very clear) “best way to predict human behaviour in the future is to notice human behaviour in the past”.
Well, we know what Israel has always done. It has lied. So, when Israel says it was an “accident”, they lied.
But Israel didn’t even say it was an accident.
They said there were Hamas guns on top of the hospital. A lie. They changed it to a Hamas camera. That also is a lie.
But Kisin will ask, “How do you know”?
Kisin is sure that Hamas has 400 miles of tunnels. How do you know, Kisin?
How do you know? Because Netanyahu said so?
There is a long tirade against Islam and how much Muslims hate Jews. The Gazans, we are told, hate Jews. This is errant nonsense.
Jews have been into Gaza and have been welcomed. Jewish Voice for Peace doctors have worked in Gaza; as has Jeff Halper of Israel Committee Against House Demolition; and Jonatan Shapira a refusenik and former Israeli Airforce pilot; Hedy Epstein a Holocaust survivor; Rami Elhanan who lost his daughter to a suicide bomber, but holds the Israeli government responsible.
Foster is ignorant. Full stop.
He asks: what human being wouldn’t be outraged at the sight of a child being pulled from the rubble.
He needs to spend some time in Israel, talking to Israelis. The two nice Jewish boys who say they would press a button in a flash to destroy Gaza. 80% of Israelis think that the IDF response has been proportionate, and listening to Kisin, it seems he agrees.
At one point Kisin talks about the inability of some people to analyse historical conflicts – he may as well be talking about himself.
“History is context”, unless it happened on October 7.
Foster is bewildered: “What’s going to happen with Hamas. I don’t know. I genuinely don’t know”.
Kisin reassures him, he is not alone. “No one does. That’s why this conflict has been going on for as long as it has. It’s very complicated”.
It’s not complicated. There has not been a resolution because America backs Israel 100%. America is prepared to ruin itself to save Israel. America hid the USS Liberty from its public when Israel attacked American Marines in 1967.
Kisin is upset with Krystal Ball for commenting on their interview with Netanyahu without watching the whole thing.
This is the one place where I have to agree with Kisin. It was daft to have made comments on an interview that had not been seen in its entirety – it was just 40 minutes.
But having watched the whole thing myself, and commented on it, I can say that Krystal Ball is not wrong in her analysis.
I look at the opinion polls. I look at the people celebrating October 7th in Gaza. I look at the fact that thousands of civilians crossed into Israel on October the 7th to commit the atrocities that were committed. And I go, "These people hate you. They hate you. They hate Israel and they hate Jews. How are you going to have a peaceful coexistence with those people?
Kisin mentions celebrations post-October 7. Has he not seen Israelis celebrating? Has he not seen the tiktok videos celebrating the suffering of civilians? Has he not seen the videos that talk about killing civilians. Did he not hear the President of Israel suggest there were no innocents in Gaza? Did he not hear Netanyahu talk about Amalek? Has Kisin been through the Israeli curriculum and seen how Arabs are presented?
Kisin protests, “people who support Hamas are Jew haters. Is that a contested claim?”.
Yes. It is. That is your bigotry talking.
The founder of Hamas, Sheikh Yassin said, if Muslims had occupied Palestine, we would be fighting them. For instance, Palestinians did resist Ottoman rule.
“If you want Palestine to be free, from the river to the sea – then you are a Jew hater”, Foster confirms.
“Between the river and the sea there will only be a sovereign Israel”. Does that make Netanyahu an Arab hater?
We “can’t deny that people in Gaza overwhelmingly hate Israel and Jews”, says Kisin.
They hate Israel for being a settler-colonialist tormentor, but they don’t hate Jews as such. They hate those who want to steal their land and take their homes.
Foster echoes the Clash of the Civilisations when he states that “they have been raised with different values”. This is about Islam the common enemy.
“Do you think she’s read the Quran?”, Kisin asks. I doubt Kisin, has unless it was to confirm his own prejudices.
“Does this silly woman know how Muslims treated Jews and Christians?” he asks.
Kisin has no idea about how Muslims treated Christians and Jews.
Muslim Spain is remembered by Jews as their Golden Age.
When Europe persecuted Jews, it was to Muslim North Africa and the Ottoman Empire they escaped to.
And how did Christians treat Jews? They called them Christ-killers. The Holocaust was in Europe. It was Christian Russia that had pogroms against Jews. It was Christian England that expelled Jews.
In “democratic” Israel today, Arabs are second class citizens. Christians are second class citizens.
Foster uses his trump card of Lebanese blood to claim historical knowledge; Christians from Lebanon and Syria escaped Muslim persecution to South America. This is nonsense.
It took 500 years for Egypt to become majority Muslim. Muslims ruled India for 500 years, and yet India is still predominantly Hindu.
Many Arabs emigrated to South America, Muslims included.
Abdala Bucaram Ortiz of Ecuador is from a Lebanese Muslim background.
Carlos Menem of Argentina was born into a Syrian Muslim family.
Julio César Turbay Ayala of Colombia was of Lebanese Muslim descent.
And then he talks about “complete historical illiteracy”. Irony doesn’t begin to explain this man’s stupidity.
Kisin: “The Muslim Brotherhood joined forces with Hitler”. Really. Is he talking about Haj Amin Hussaini?
Haj Amin was from a prominent Arab family, and it was the British who appointed him Grand Mufti, expecting to gain influence over the Arabs in Palestine. Haj Amin opposed Zionist ambitions for Palestine and during the second world war he attempted to collaborate with the Nazis, who politely refused his offer.
Perhaps Kisin aware of someone else who tried to collaborate with the Nazis? Yitzhak Shamir, who later became Prime Minister of Israel.
Kisin: “I am not regularly confronted with this level of retardation”.
That is not true. You clearly shave regularly, and so you must be looking at yourself in the mirror regularly.
Historical illiteracy, Foster? You’re looking at him, even as you utter the words.
“In Germany if you wanted a food parcel you had to go watch a film about the holocaust”.
Apparently.
Francis can’t help you, mate. He’s as illiterate as you are.
Francis thinks he knows all about Ireland. “You have one religion in Ireland”.
Not according to Reverend Ian Paisely, there wasn’t, who renounced Pope John Paul II as “the antichrist”.
When Pope John XXIII died, Paisely exclaimed, “This Romish man is now in Hell!”.
When the British royalty visited the Pope in 1958, Paisely said they had committed “fornication with the antichrist”.
So much for historical literacy. He continues to spout drivel by suggesting that Hamas celebrates the death of their own children – a blood libel that is allowed in the West. This is a Zionist lie that Golda Meir invented when she declared, “there will be peace when Arabs love their children more than they hate us”.
Another disgusting lie told by Golda Meir: “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. But we will never forgive them for making us kill theirs”.
This is the sort of hateful speech these two bigots are indulging in.
Kisin imagines that once deradicalised, Netanyahu will be happy to have a Palestinian state and live next to it in peace. This is where he needs to reflect on the words of Thomas Sewell he quotes above.
There is a lot of nonsense talked about “if Mexico was firing rockets into Texas there would be no Mexico”. But where is the context?
They talk about context but allow none for the Palestinians who have had their land stolen; homes confiscated; daily night raids; mowing the lawn; where’s daddy; children tried by military courts; administrative detention; journalists murdered; doctors murdered; baby formula denied.
Kisin’s admiration for Netanyahu is blind and ignorant: Netanyahu sees himself as a leader of his people with the choice of allowing their destruction or ensuring their survival.
Netanyahu has single-handedly brought Israel to this point. Yitzhak Rabin’s wife blamed Netanyahu for her husband’s murder. A few days before Rabin’s assassination, Netanyahu led a procession with a mock Rabin coffin decorated with a hangman’s noose and chants of “Death to Rabin”.
“This is what a Prime Minister looks like”.
Kisin’s admiration for Netanyahu is excruciating; that he cannot recognise a fraud, a liar and psychopath is astonishing.
Foster repeats allegations of Hezbollah training camps in Venezuela, allegations made by America. He provides no evidence.
Venezuela has the largest known reserves of oil in the world – and America is an oil junkie. It has placed a $50 million bounty on Maduro and sent warships to Venezuela citing drug trafficking (no mention of Hezbollah, Francis).
America is still living in the Wild, Wild West.
Kisin says that Hamas could end the war tomorrow by releasing the hostages. Netanyahu is not interested in the hostages. If he was he would not have ended the ceasefire in January 2024. The Hannibal Directive proves that Israel is not interested in hostages.
And Hamas has offered to step down in Gaza, but Netanyahu has refused.
Israel has the ability to end the war today – accept the ceasefire that has been offered by Hamas.
Francis pleads, “You cannot tell me that the extremism of the settlers is equal to the extremism of October 7”.
Yes, I can.
What was October 7? It was what has been happening in Gaza since October 10. EVERY DAY!
Babies left to putrefy in incubators; selfies with building being blown up as backdrop; IDF soldiers wearing lingerie and destroying children’s toys; sodomising a prisoner with a mobile phone; firing 350 rounds from a tank into a car with 5-year old Hind Rajab and her family – and then killing the first responders who came to rescue Hind; murdering 15 first responders and then lying about it; bombing and destroying almost all the hospitals; babies denied baby formula; no anaesthesia; snipers using children as target practice.
And BEFORE October 7: mowing the lawn; IDF snipers boasting they blew off 42 knees in one day; children tried in front of military courts; killing children playing football on the beach; stealing land; stealing homes; razing homes to the ground; destroying olive groves.
And then we have Kisin’s bigotry in full flow. Sexual Assault goes up as Muslims move into Europe. Muslim cultures are barbaric – an uncomfortable truth that Kisin and Foster reluctantly realise to be a fact, incompatible with “ours”.
What values are incompatible with your civilisation, Kisin?
That women will let you grab their pussy if the man is wealthy?
That Clinton did not have sex with an intern – just fellated?
That the President of the United States paid a porn star hush money and was best friends with a paedophile?
That the BBC, the police and the establishment gave cover to a paedophile DJ?
That political parties and public institutions put their own reputations before the safety of vulnerable young children when allegations of paedophilia were made about people in power.
Where 52% of women have reported sexual harassment at work (TUC survey) or 65% of women according to a BBC survey? And according to EHRC 80% of women who experience such harassment don’t report it to their employer.
Is that the sort of society Muslims don’t fit into?
Krystal Ball would not be allowed to show her face or speak in public according to these people, Kisin protests. 0.25% of Muslim women in the UK wear the niqab, about 5,000 women.
In 2023, there were 63,000 rapes reported in England alone. The sexual assault of 63,000 women is a slightly more pressing problem than 5,000 women who wear the niqab.
That’s 63,000 rapes that were reported. It’s estimated that in that same year, some 600,000 adults were sexually assaulted.
Of the 63,000 who did report rape, less than 2,000 saw their rapist go to prison.
Is that the sort of society you want Kisin? Is it Muslims that have created that society?
Foster: people don’t understand how deep antisemitism runs through the Middle East – he is talking from the experience of his grandfather who was an antisemite. Foster imagines that if a Christian Arab hated Jews that much, then Muslims must be worse.
Is that why Israel, in the 1950s, planted bombs in synagogues to try and “encourage” Iraqi Jews to flee Iraq.
Is that why the King of Morocco refused to surrender Moroccan Jews to the Nazis?
Is that why, when Europe had pogroms, the Jews found shelter in Muslim North Africa or the Ottoman empire?
UAE and Saudi Arabia are seen as the adults in the Muslim world – they are going after the “crazies”. Saudi Arabia which created al-Qaeda. They use the ghoul of terrorism and extremism to prevent any political opposition – but it suits Kisin to say “Muslims know” how dangerous these militants are. These militants are people who are demanding the freedom that Foster and Kisin value so much in Europe – but it’s not for Muslims; Muslims can live with the moderate MbS and MbZ.
The bile that the pair produce is dangerous stuff – it is that extreme right militancy that is now a danger to the world. One that can dismiss babies being denied baby formula; one that can watch a man-made famine and blame the victims; one that can look the other way when a group of soldiers sodomise a Palestinian.
Because Palestinians are not human.